When I wrote about DRM and how it is a big problem, I got a comment saying that the real problem is new user interfaces. I do not agree. They are problematic for now, that much is true; but only as far as the new users are concerned and only for so long.
This past months Linux communities have seen much hate toward new GUIs. Aesthetics aside; their newness together with their widespread use is a big problem, but they also brought a change, something we did not see before. Refreshing, even.
Let us start with the problem. They are new. For someone like me who knows the system well, this is not a problem but what about someone who has just met with Linux? I have some firsthand experience about that situation. As one of the admins of Turkey's most popular Linux forum, I spend almost all my time there solving new users' problems. But the thing is, almost all of the problems are KDE or Gnome related. Forum is mostly about Pardus and Pardus has a strong base system. But KDE, in its complexity, or Gnome, in its newness, are always creating problems. As Pardus is not used widely, it wasn't really a problem for the Linux community at large with its stable Gnome 2. But things are changed. Gnome 3 arrived, also rushing Unity to the front from the netbooks. As I have said before, KDE was already a problem for the new users who doesn't even now what Konsole is for; but now the other safe alternative is no longer there. Ubuntu, Fedora, Mint and all the other distributions new users usually use are no longer bundled with stable interfaces. Here you will probably say that KDE is stable and good, I agree to an extend; but it is only stable as long as you know what you are doing. User interfaces are the face of Linux, for new users they are Linux. A problem in them is a problem in Linux in their eyes. And this hurts Linux very much right now. Gnome 3 and Unity will became stable with time and this will pass but right now it is a big problem. KDE is not for the absolute newbie and all the other alternatives are either too complicated and not-newbie-friendly or as buggy as hell. When KDE becomes the sane alternative for the newbies, we must realize that there is a big problem somewhere.
But I can't believe that anyone in Linux community can say that Gnome 3's and Unity's newness is a problem for the Linux desktop. After all, Linux desktop grows with people who demand change, who demand newness. Even for a veteran user for whom user interfaces are mostly a choice of aesthetics, accessibility and sometimes integration of different parts; change should remain as something desired, something inherent in Linux philosophy. I very much hope that I am not wrong for assuming this.
If we talk about interfaces themselves; I can't speak much for Unity, not having used it. But Gnome 3 is great. It is prone to crashes, it needs css and js editing to look good and to act as dictated by the user, but it is something I've never thought of before. A new desktop metaphor that actually works, what could be wrong with that? You might say that it does not work well but as millions are using it (maybe a exaggeration) one must agree that it does, indeed, work. I am using it comfortably, as many other also do. It is free of distractions and works perfectly with docks if you prefer to use them. Goes very well with Avant Window Navigator, try it. It is very customizable, you can check my Gnome 3 setup here.
All in all; even if the new interfaces are problems right now, I would like to believe that they won't stay long as problems. And with their stability new options will be there for the new comers. New metaphors, something they cannot experience with other operating systems at large. No matter how you look at it, this is not a problem, only an opportunity that is slowly beginning to make itself known. To quote Firefly, "every problem is an opportunity in disguise".
Well said. KDE4 had a load of **** from users, but it looks beautiful, is actually very similar to KDE3 and now works beautifully. I find it hugely ironic that Linux users who are constantly battling against and moaning at Windows users for not trying Linux - because it's different and they have to learn new things - then moaning about [slightly] new GUIs.
ReplyDeleteUbuntu has jumped the shark. I speak for all Linux users everywhere when I say: Unity is horrible and we universally hate it. Desktop computers work best with taskbar-style user interfaces. They don't work well when you try to turn them into overgrown smartphones.
ReplyDeleteI have a friend running Ubuntu and he loves Unity.
ReplyDeleteUnity looks like it was written by the folks at Playskool. It's not intuitive and even leaves the experienced Linux user scratching her/his head. I'm not sure why you claim KDE is difficult. I moved from v3 to v4 and almost had a heart attack until they fixed their bugs, but most have been shaken out of the rug and most nearly resembles a windows desktop. I'm not an advocate for Windows in the least bit, but it's KDE's desktop that lets my new Linux clients fit closest to their old Windows home, with a hell of a lot more options.
ReplyDeleteWhere windows has us beat unquestionably is in the configuration of multi-monitor setups. I run 4 monitors and will be adding a 5th soon. Hopefully the Nvidia driver GUI interface will be able to handle it, because messing with the xorg.conf file can be a nightmare and isn't for beginners. I think a cross-desktop monitor manager would be a better idea than trying to make people use Unity. This is a huge workstation I have here - not a smartphone.
KDE also seems very easy to me too, but the people I support says quite the opposite. I am speaking from experince when I say that new users find KDE a lot more harder than Gnome 2.
ReplyDeleteWhen I first started with Linux in 2004, I instantly fell in love with KDE, which was on version 3.1 at the time. But I jumped ship when KDE 4 came out in early 2008 and switched to GNOME. But a year and a half ago, I saw some previews of GNOME 3 and did NOT like what I saw. Therefore, since April of last year, Xfce has been my Linux desktop home -- I love its simplicity. While I have toyed with the idea of a possible return to KDE, I would feel better about doing so if I had another 1GB of RAM on my computer (I currently have 1GB as it is).
ReplyDeleteI started my Linux journey three years ago with OpenSUSE 11.1 with GNOME 2. I later upgraded it to OpenSUSE 11.2 with KDE 4 and hated it. As soon as 11.3 came out, I loaded it on and returned to GNOME.
ReplyDeleteI got a new (used) Linux laptop a few months ago. The previous owner put a fresh install of Fedora 14 with GNOME 2 on it before sending it to me, and I liked that quite well, but when I tried Fedora 16 with GNOME 3, I didn't just hate it, I despised it. After a lot of downloading and burnng a lot of CDs, I settled on Xubuntu 11.10 and I've never been happier with any Linux distro I've ever used. The Xfce interface is lightweight, configurable, and very user friendly. Just for the heck of it, I've configured it to cosmetically resemble Mac OS X, which is what the rest of my computers run. People see it and think I'm running a 'Hackintosh'.